A LITTLE MOORE GENEALOGY HISTORY
I received this information from Mr. Ron Moore over the course of several weeks via my Guestbook (now off-line), and I thought I would share it with everyone. Y'all can make up your own minds and do your own research as to our ancestry.
I hope this helps. Happy Researching! :)
---POST FROM 08/07/2009---
Moore was a Teutonic (Gothic) title meaning "Greatest Ruler" in English. The Greek translation is Empyrer, which is shown as Emperor in English. It was probably pronounced as Moo-rey.
The Moose is the greatest deer.
More was a Teutonic (Gothic) title meaning "Great Ruler", which translates to King. It was probably pronounced as Mo-rey.
The Moray eel is the king of eels.
Re was a Teutonic (Gothic) title meaning "Ruler". When the Mo or Moo is not used in conjunction, the translation is Prince. It was probably pronounced as Rey.
Roger the Moore, who is shown as Roger "Mortimer" (Dead Sea), was the first to use the title as a surname after he created the Atlantic Empire and began using the title of Emperor about 1318 AD.
---POST FROM 08/28/2009---
King Stephen of England had a grandson named Henry II and second-born son that was named William. When Stephen died, Frederick I of the Teutonic Mooredom (God-like Empire) divided his property between Henry II who was given Essex and Sussex, plus Normandy and Brittany, and William who was given Wessex, Norsex, and present-day Scotland and Ireland. Norsex and Wessex were combined into a single Moredom (Kingdom), possibly called the Medimoreland. That meant William owned three Moredoms, which were turned into the Visi Atlantis Mooredom (Western Atlantic Empire).
Essex and Sussex were combined into one Moredom and that gave Henry three Moredoms, which were turned into the Ostro Atlantis Moredom, (Eastern Atlantic Empire).
William I became the first Moore of the Visi Atlantis Mooredom and he was the one that completely conquered and subjugated Wessex, which contained Norsex. He was the first to use the rampant lion on his coat-of-arms and it was yellow and displayed with a single star that was indicative of him being a More of one country, His crest was a sword with one impaled head that was indicative of the Celtic king of present-day Wales.
William I had a second-born son that was also named William and he became the third Moore of the Mooredom. He was the one that completely conquered and subjugated Scotland and he used a purple rampant lion, displayed with two stars that were indicative of him being the More of two Moredoms. His crest was a sword with two impaled heads, one of which was indicative of the Celtic king of Scotland.
Wlliam II had a first-born son that was also named William and he was the one that completely conquered and subjugated Ireland. He used a red rampant lion, displayed with three stars, which were indicative of him being the More of three Moredoms. His crest was a sword with three impaled heads, one of which was indicative of the king of Ireland (O'Connor).
William III is shown with the byname of de Burgo but it was probably Toledo instead. He defeated King O'Connor about 1198 CE and after subjugating the entire island, he made his a first-born son, Richard, the first More of Ireland and that means he was the first high king or Ard-Ri in Ireland since before the lowlands were conquered by Vort, and he gave the island his son Nyal to rule and the Goth called it Nyland.
When Wiiliam III died, Richard became the next Moore of the Visi Atlantis Mooredom and he made his first-born son, also named Richard, the next More of Ireland.
Richard II had a first-born son named Roger that is shown as Roger Mortimer and when he when died, Roger became the next Moore of the Visi Atlantis Mooredom.
Roger I, who built the Imperial castle, had a first-born son named William that is shown as William of Wallace but was really William of Whitecastle and he became William IV of the Visi Atlantis Mooredom.
William IV had a son named Roger, who is also shown as Roger Mortimer and he married Isabella, who was the daughter of Edward II of the Ostro Atlantis Mooredom. When Edward died without a male heir, Isabella became heiress to his Mooredom and Roger combined the two into one Mooredom. Isabella used the English language, which was the language of the indigenous Saxons, and Roger declared English as being the language of the Empire, which he named the Atlantic Empire and this is when he began using his old title of Moore as his surname.
Roger I died at Acre with Edward I in 1291 CE but neither of them were born around the Dead Sea so the byanames are bogus.
Anyway, starting with William de Burgo and Richard II, Ireland appears to have been a steward Moredom and the Mores gave the four provinces to their sons (princes)to rule and they in turn, divided the provices into numerous counties, which they gave to their sons (counts) to rule.
After Roger created surnames, everyone that had a title used that as their own surname and at that time the only Moore was Roger II who was ruling from Windsor castle. That means the More of Ireland was the only one that used the More surname there and that leads me to believe that Roger II may be your namesake and one of your ancestors moved to Ireland where your family evolved, but Moore and More are not Gaelic surnames.
---POST FROM 09/15/2009---
The Goth, Teutons and Caucasians were the same people but they did not evolve in the Caucus Mountains. They were trapped on the west coast and continental shelf of present-day Norway during the Fourth Glacier Period and evolved into the White Race during their 57,000 year entrapment. Since they evolved on the Scandinavian peninsula, I prefer to use the name of Skandi instead of Caucasian.
After the glacier started melting, they migrated to present-day Sweden and evolved there for another 2,000 years before crossing the Kattegat and invading Jutland (Denmark).
This is when they started eliminating Neanderthal and conquering the Se alt tribes. Se means deer and alt means high or alpine and they were the tribes that existed with the alpine deer herds. Se and alt were combined to get Sealt and after "s" was translated to "c" and the "a" was removed, the contracted word of Celt was created.
The male Goth, who were around 7-feet tall with elongated skulls and narrow faces, bred with the female Celts, who were around 5-feet tall with round skulls and wide faces and this produced offspring that were about 6-feet tall with elongated skulls but with wide faces and they are called Cro Magnons. The offspring stayed with their mothers and bred with the tribe and that eventually caused all European Celts to have the same characteristics and intelligence.
Then, along came the Fifth Glacier and forced everyone south and the Skandi ended up on the northern coast of Africa, where they conquered the indigenous tribes, including the ones called Egyptians. About 1584 BCE, Amenhotep IV, who was also known as Kheper IV, created the first Mooredom and the title of Moore. While he was conquering the tribes in the Near East, who had never seen white people, they became worshipped as though they were gods and they called them Teuts, which may have been Theuts and was their word for gods and this is when the Goth became known as Teutons.
When Kheper died, his son Athen, who was married to his own sister Nefertiti, became the next Moore of the Teutonic Mooredom. Athen was also known as Akhenaten, which was contracted and combined by using his name twice then changing the "t" to a "k" in the first usage and removing the "h" in the second usage.
Athen's seat of power in Greece was originally called "Athen's terra", which translates to "Athen's land" in English. The apostophy and terra were removed leaving the name of Athens.
This process of name creation was later used in Ireland but I have to explain something else first.
Athen's descendants continued the conquest of Europe, generation after generation, and after conquering around the Baltic Sea, they invaded across the Kattegat and conquered present-day Denmark again. However, this time they were known only as the Frost Giants or the Norsemen.
The land between the channel and the mountains separating Germany from Poland, and between the Rhine and the Baltic was occupied by the Cro Magnon Celts who were using deer skeletons as tools and weapons. They were called Seaxones because Se meant deer and axone was the skeleton of vertebrates. The names were combined to Seaxone and their land was called Seaxoni. After changing the "i" to "y" and removing the "e", the name becomes Saxony and they were called Saxons.
The indigenous Saxon language appears to have been the English language and now I can get back to Ireland stuff.
Ireland was called the Visi Atlantis More terra, which translates in English to Western Atlantic king land.
The name of Ireland was derived by not translating Visi, removing Atlantic, not translating More and translating terra. This left Visi More Land, which was combined to Visimoreland and then it was contracted by removing "Vi" and "Mo" to get Ireland.
Also, Visi More was combined to Visimore and then contracted by removing the "si" to get Vimore and then translating "More" to get Viking.
In 395 CE after the European Celts had been completely conquered, Shan, who was the Moore of the Teutonic or Theutonic Mooredom at that time, invaded western Ireland but he died in 396 CE after only having conquered from Galway to Athlone and the land between the Shannon and the Atlantic. Shan died without an heir and his younger brother, Nyal, became the next Moore of the Teutonic Mooredom and he completed the conquest of the lowlands in Ireland and the Dal Riada portion of Scotland before he died. Ireland's highlands would not be conquered until 1198 CE by William de Toldeo (Burgo).
Nyal translates to Niel in English, and he gave Ireland to his second-born son Mayn, which translates to Main in English. Ireland was divided into four Redoms or Relands (provinces) and Main gave them to his four sons to rule.
The Redoms are presently called Ulster, Leinster, Munster and Connaught but that was after their real names were contracted and combined.
Ulster was contracted from the combined word Paulsterra, which translates to Paul's Land in English.
Leinster was contracted from the combined word of Leinsterra, which translates to Lein's land in English. However, the prince's name was spelled in reverse and should show as Niel and that means Leinster was really called Neil's land and Main must have named him after his father, Nyal.
Munster was contracted from the combined word of Munsterra but Main appears to have named his sons with four-letter words so Mun was probably spelled as Munn and Munster was called Munnster, which translates to Munn's land in English.
Connaught was contracted from the combined word of Connsaughtterra but the "a" was originally and "o" so the combined word was Connsougtterra, which decombines to Conn's lough terra and that translates to Conn's lake land in English.
Nyal appears to have used the name of Shannon for the land that his brother, Shan, conquered. Shannon appears to have been combined and contracted from "Shan's visi lough terra" which translates to Shan's western lake land in English.
Lough Ree appears to have been named that because of the castle Nyal built for Main at Atlone, which was the More's castle for Ireland. Lough was not translated but Ree was contracted from More castle. I don't know what word the Celts used for castle but it appears that Lough Ree translates to King's Castle Lake in English.
Remember this ... Roger II combined the Mooredoms and appears to have used the English language as the official language foe the Atlantic Empire. He also appears to have wanted to keep his old title of Moore and turned it into his surname and may have mandated that all of his subjects use surnames, which would be inherited by the males offspring. A surname varies from the old bynames, such as "son of someone" or "of someplace", that were usually a one-generation name.
---POST FROM 09/18/2009---
First off, the name of moorland was contracted from Mooreland so when they mention that it refers to a person who lived on a moor, they are partially correct but it was really meant to be deceptive.
The wor of "mor", which they state means great or stately, was contracted from More and since "mo" means great, the statement is partially correct.
Another tidbit is the supposed kingdom of Meath, which appears to have been contracted from "middle earth". Actually, a More ruled his moredom from his royal estate in the moredom's midlands and in this case that was in Athlone, where his royal castle was located. They show Meath as being a large area and a fifth kingdom but the real royal estate was only a fraction of that size.
A Re (prince)ruled his redom (province) from his castle, which was usually located at the mouth of a river in his province. A Moredom only had four Redoms so there were only four princes in a kingdom at any time.
A Redom was broken down into numerous counties, which were ruled by Counts that were usually the sons of princes.They have given the Counts the name of Earl but they neglected to change the title of a Count's wife as they still call her a Countess.
--POST FROM 10/14/2009--
I get the feeling that I haven't convinced you of the meaning of the Moore name so I'll write one more long boring story and I may as well point a finger at the O'More Clan site. If their explanation of what the name means is correct then O'More and O'Moore both refer to a descendant of a tribe or clan that lived on a moor but that doesn't make much sense to me. All of the O' surnames started as bynames when people only had one name and they were meant to differentiate between two or more people that carried the same name. Most children were given patronyms, which meant they were known as a descendant of their father, whose name was always given to differentiate between between him and the other fathers in the same tribe or between different tribes. To differentiate between tribes, which used the same location byname, the individual name of that particular location is needed and since there were moors all over the islands, which moor did any particular tribe of Mores or Moores originate at? I get the feeling that the history changers just tacked the O' onto the More and Moore surnames to confuse things and that would be the Four Masters that wrote the Annals of Ireland.
Also, the castle of Dunamase may have had a connection with some Mores or Moores but it was not the habitat of the Emperor, King or Prince and that means it was a Count's castle. In the Visi Atlantis Mooredom, the ruler of a county was called a Visi Count, which was contracted to Viscount, and the castle was built for the Count of Laois to rule the county from.
There was only one stone More Castle constructed in Ireland, which was at Athlone, and there was only one Moore Castle constructed in the British Islands and that was on the Isle of Man (Moore Castle Island). Roger I claimed the island as the Imperial Estate for the Visi Atlantis Mooredom and he built the castle, which is presently call Rushen, on the southern end of the island at the mouth of the Silverburn River. The castle was constructed of gray limestone quarried from an outcropping about two miles north of the castle site near a town called Ballasalla but the castle, the inner and outerwalls, the glacis, the gatehouse, the guardhouse and the three towers were all faced with white limestone that appears to have been brought from Dover, England. The castle was called Whitecastle and was probably where William of Wallace (Braveheart fame) was born but his byname was probably Whitecastle.
Roger created a reservoir on the Silverburn (called Silver Glen or Dale) about a half-mile north of the quarry and used it to supply an underground mason and limestone aquaduct, built on bedrock and covered over with soil to hide it. Water from the reservoir, which was at about 179 feet elevation, was diverted into the aquaduct and sent underground to the castle, which was 2.5 miles away and at about 40 feet in elevation. The water pressure filled an above ground moat about 12-feet deep, between the 20-foot high inner wall and the 12-foot high outer wall which was also the inner wall of the glacis. The outer wall of the glacis was also the inner wall of the below ground moat, which was about 12 feet deep and wide and surrounded the castle and the small village that was constructed to the north of the castle, where the soldiers lived with their families. On each side of the smaller towers, was a spillway that carried the water overflow from the inner above-ground moat, which filled the below-ground moat.
The original gate house was construced in the above ground moat and had access to a large center tower and two smaller side towers. The gatehouse had two entry ways, one on the left side of the large center tower for the Moore and one on the other side of the center tower for the soldiers. Both entranceways had drawbridges that were lowered over the below ground level moat to allow entry into the guard house, which was seperated into two parts with a thick wall separating the two sides. The dividin wall had a walkway along the top so that defenders could shoot down on any invaders that made it into either side and in reality were called killing zones.
Above each entranceway was a stone plaque, on which was the emblem for the occupants of each side. Above the Moore's entrance was a carved-in-stone rampant lion and above the soldier's entrance was a carved-in-stone pinwheel layout with three legs and three stars. The rampant lion emblem has been removed as they tore down that side and changed the construction, but they left the pinwheel emblem, which they say is the emblem of the Manx ruler that ruled from the castle. That couldn't be more false as the emblem is indicative of the three armies of the three moredoms in the Visi Atlantis Mooredom and that is because the castle was also used as the headquarters for the generals of those three armies and even though some sites show the stars being spurs on the boots of the legs, they were really just indicative of the three moredoms.
The history changers turned the castle into a jail and then tore down the original gatehouse, one of the towers, most of the inner and outer walls and all of the white limestone facing was stripped from the gray limestone, leaving a very rough look to the castle and remnants of walls, which they say is due to weathering. The castle has been deliberately destroyed to hide it's real usage and the stone was used to fill in the below-ground moat, then the Silverburn was excavated to form the present-day small boat harbor and that soil was used to cover the stone fill in the moat, creating the present-day road that circles the castle and original village. The road to the quarry and reservoir has been paved over and both roads hide the original waterways that could be revealed by using a backhow to cut a trench across the road and down to bedrock, which isn't very far down.
Now, since I may not be here much longer, I'll anticipate a couple questions you may come up with. First, The Visi Atlantis Mooredom had nine Moores and I have given you the names of all except the second one, whose name was Richard and he was the first-born son of William I, son of Stephen. Richard is your relative but not an ancestor as he died on crusade shortly after his only son died and they are both entombed in Christ Church in Dublin, Ireland and that is how his younger brother, William II became the third Moore. He is better known as Richard de Clare and "Strongbow" and he married Aoife (Eva) of Leinster (Niel's terra) who may have been his sister-in-law.
Second, your connection to the Teutonic Mooredom is Henry I of England, who was Stephen's father, but Henry wasn't the son of William the "Conqueror" he was his son-in-law. Henry I was married to William's only daughter, Adela, and when William's only son, Robert, died without an heir, Adela became the heiress for William's estate and Henry I took control of it until their son, Stephen, turned 21 and replaced Robert as the next ruler of Hengland. Henry I was also Henry V, Moore of the Teutonic Mooredom and can be found in the Kings of Germany lineage but this was at a time before Germany was created and Old Saxony was where present-day Germany is located.
Third, and this one may surprise you, is you Spanish ancestry. William II was the second-born son of William I and as such, he wasn't in line to enherit anything in the Mooredom, so his father married him, at age 16, to a Basque Princess and they were married in the Royal Castle at Toledo. They lived in the castle until William turned 21 years of age and could rule on his own and then he was given the northeast province of the Basque Moredom to rule. Whil they were in the Toledo castle, William's wife gave birth to their first-born son also named William and he is the William de Burgo that finished conquering Ireland. In 1177 CE, Richard I died and William took over as the next Moore and when his second-born son turned 21, he gave him the Basque province and his descendants became the future Kings of Spain.
When William de Burgo turned 16 he was wasn't expected to inherit anything except the crown for the Basque province, so he was married to a princess, who was the daughter of the next Basque More and they lived in the Basque castle until he turned 21 and could rule the northwest province on his own. His wife gave birth to their first-born son, Richard, in the castle and when William de Burgo became the next Moore of the Visi Atlantis Mooredom and his second-born son turned 21 years of age, he gave his province to him and his descendants also married into the Basque royalty that eventually became the Kings of Spain. William II used a purple rampant lion as his coat-of-arms and William III used a red rampant lion as his. These two lions are shown on the coat-of-arms of Spain, which shows them both as being purple, but some sites show them being a more reddish than purple when in reality, one was red and one was purple. Since William de Burgo was half-Basque and their descendants became the royal Spanish family, that's your Spanish connection.
---POST FROM 10/29/2009--
But first, I have to let you know that I don't mean to take away your idea of a Celtic ancestry because for all I know, your ancestors could have had multiple marriages into Celtic families but I do want to change the bogus meanings for the More and Moore surnames that are all over the Internet. Here is the name of the person that was the first to use the "More" title as a surname in Ireland (he isn't the source for the surname of More in Scotland, Wales and England). They show three Kings of Ireland listed as Earls of the Earldom of Ulster but that's falsification as Ulster was a province not a county. They show the three kings as being Walter, Richard and William and it was Richard that was King of Ireland when Roger II mandated the use of surnames. I think the reason they framed them in Ulster is because the whole gambit of bynames, surnames and changes in titles, happened with those three kings. Walter used the "More of Ireland" title and the byname of Richard's son (Richardson), Richard used the title of "More of Ireland" and the byname of Walter's son (Walterson) until the mandate and afterward he used the "King of Ireland" title with the surname of "More", William used the byname of Richard's son until the mandate and then he used the surname of "More" and then the title of king after he succeeded to the throne. After the bogus Earls of Ulster lineage the rest of the Kings of Ireland can be found in the Lords of Upper Connaught lineage. The Lords of Lower Connaught lineage more than likely portrays the Princes of Connaught.
Now for the biggie, which involves William Shakespeare and another one of your ancestors named Juli, who was better known as Julius Caesar but was really known as Juli the Moore of the Teutonic Mooredom. Juli is shown on the Julian calendar where his name is spelled as July. April was his great grandfather, Mai (May) was his grandfather, June was his father, March was his son (Marc Antony) and August was his grandson. The Julian calendar is really a list of emperors in the bogus Roman Empire period and the last four months are slots that were never used.
September was the 7th Emperor slot and if you separate sept from ember then invert the "b" and replace the "or" that was removed from the end you'll get Sept Emperor (originally, it was Sept Moore). October has more letters removed but can be regenerated like September was and the same with November and December. January and February are bogus months and the names were created from the "mumble jumble" parlor game and just describe how the other months were falsified. The original calender had ten months and the months alternated in the number of days each had, from 36 to 37, which means five months had 36 days and five months had 37 days and they all added up to 365 days. The original 10 month calender would have been a lot easier to use but the history changers falsified it and create the 12 month one with the months containing a wide variety of days.
The reason I mentioned the calender is because April created the Imperial (Moore) Sect and mandated that he be worshipped just as all of the other gods were. His son Mai and his son June kept the Sect going but Juli decided he was superior to his ancestors didn't want to belong to the Moore Sect and mandated that all of the idol worship gods be terminated and then he created his own Juli Sect where he was known by his title of Moore and his worshippers were known by their title of Julites. The Juli Sect lasted until Juli died and then it started to fall apart but March revived it in a different format.
Shakespeare wrote stories (plays) that were symbolic of events that happened in the lives of the ruling classes and one of his stories was called "Romeo and Juliet", which was based on Juli's change in religion. It was about a man named Romeo who was supposed to marry one woman but discarded her to marry another woman named Juliet, which tore their two families apart. The local priest secretly married Romeo and Juliet but the prince banned Romeo from the town and Juliet was given to another man to marry immediately. Then the priest gave Juliet a drug to make her appear dead so she wouldn't have to marry and she was placed in a mausoleum until Romeo could return. He did return but when he saw Juliet he thought she was dead so he killed himself by her side. Later Juliet awoke from the drug, saw Romeo and killed herself with his dagger.
Everything that happens in the story is symbolic of what happened with Juli and the Juli Sect and the titles of both were used to get the title of the story of Romeo and Juliet.
The charactor of Romeo is symbolic of Juli and the letters in his title of Moore were rearranged to spell the name of Romeo.
The charactor of Juliet is symbolic of the Juli Sect and the letters in their title of Julite were rearranged to spell the name of Juliet.
Here's something you might like to place with your Irish Ancestors:
The harp that once through Tara's Hall the soul of music shed,
now hangs as mute on Tara's wall as if that soul were fled.
So sleeps the pride of former days so glory's thrill is o'er,
and hearts that once beat high for praise now feel that pulse no more.
No more to chiefs and ladies bright, the harp of Tara swells,
the chord alone, that beats at night, it's tale of ruin tells.
This freedom now so seldom wakes, the only throb she gives,
is when some heart indignant breaks, to show that still she lives.
by Thomas Moore 1179 - 1852
... And there's MORE (posted Thursday 03/04/2010 1:18:49pm):
... is it possible that your James More (O'More) and Sarah Guyon had a daughter that married into a Moore family and that is how the family name changed from More to Moore and your line descended from that union? In case you feel that could have happened, I researched the Irish kings (Mores) to find the person that is the namesake for the "More" surname in Ireland and would be the king that your "More" ancestors descended from. This is only for Ireland and he would not be the namesake for the "More" families in Scotland, England or anywhere else.
Richard II of the Visi Atlantis Mooredom (William de Burgos' son) married O'Connor's daughter and they had a son that was also name Richard and became Richard III of the Visi Atlantis Mooredom. Richard III had a son named Roger that became Roger I of the Visi Atlantis Mooredom and he also had a son named Walter that he crowned as the first Gothic hereditary More (king) of Ireland.
1248 - 1271 - Walter turned 21 in 1248 and that is when his reign began but he died in 1271, which was about 50 years before Roger II created the Atlantic Empire and mandated the use of surnames in the English language. Walter's descendants were known by the byname of Walter's son and one of them about 1318 became the one that was the first to use Walterson as a surname. Walterson was contracted to Walters and is where Barbara Walters got her surname, which has nothing to do with your ancestors but I thought you may find that interesting since Walter is your ancestor.
Walter built castles for the counts in Donegal, Down and Antrim and he built the amazing Dunluce castle near Portrush in county Antrim, which was used in succeeding centuries by the MacWilliams (Williamson) and the MacDonnells.
1271 - 1306 - Walter had a first-born son that he named Richard and when Walter died, his son became Richard I, More of Ireland. Richard I went by the byaname of Walter's son during his minority but he died in 1306, which was a good 12 years before the surname edict was issued by Roger II so he wasn't the namesake for the "More" surname. However, this Richard had a first-born son that became Richard II, More of Ireland but the history changers need to hide him so they combined Richard I with his son Richard II, making a bogus Richard with Richard I's birthdate and Richard II's death date. They call this bogus Richard the "Red Earl" of Ulster but they assume that people will believe Ulster was an Earldom (county) when it was really a province ruled by a prince and the prince that ruled there was the Royal Prince who ruled the province until his father died and then he became the next More of Ireland. Just as the Royal Prince of England today is called the Prince of Wales.
In 1305 Richard I began building the massive fortification at Greencastle, which was the most northwesterly Gothic bastion in Europe. At this time the castle was called Northburg or Newcastle and the Irish name for it was "Caislean Nua".
1306 -1330 - Richard I died in 1306 and His son, Richard II, took over as the next More if Ireland. Richard II was known by the byname of Richard's son during his minority but he was the More of Ireland when Roger mandated the use of English surnames so, instead of his surname being Richardson, he used his Gothic title of More as his surname and changed his ruling title in Ireland to the English title of king. This Richard II is the namesake for the surname of More in Ireland, however, his children born before the mandate used the Richardson surname while his children born after the mandate used the More surname.
Richard II's descendants that used the More surname, used a rampant lion as their clan crest and became known as the "More Pride", instead of the "More Clan" and there is even a surname of "Pridemore" but the main-line used the More surname.
Richard II's second-born son, Edmund, was born before the mandate and was using the Richard's son byname when the edict was issued so he became a Richardson. His father crowned him as the Prince of Connaught in 1332, which made him another source fron the Richardson surname and his descendants became the hereditary counts of Galway and evolved into the Richardson Clan.
Your More (O'More) ancestors may have descended from Richard II as counts or nobles or they may have descended from a later King of Ireland as the surname of More became hereditary. In case that was the scenario, I 'll show you the Gothic Kings that descended from Richard II.
1330 - 1333 - Richard II died in 1330 and his first-born son, William, took over as the next King if Ireland.
1333 - 1347 - Richard II died in 1333 and his wife, Elizabeth, became regent for Ireland during the minority of their son, Lionel.
1347 - 1368 - Lionel came of age and was crowned as the next King of Ireland.
1368 - 1369 - Lionel died in 1368 and his wife, Phillipa, became regent for Ireland during the minority of their son, Edmund.
1369 - 1381 - Edmund came of age and was crowned as the next King of Ireland.
1381 -1398 - Edmund I died in 1381 and his son, Roger, was crowned as the next King of Ireland.
1398 - 1425 - Roger died in 1398 and his son, Edmund, was crowned as the next King of Ireland.
1425 - 1460 - Edmund II died in 1425 and his son, Richard, was crowned as the next King of Ireland.
1460 - 1483 - Richard III died in 1460 apparently without an heir since Edward IV of the Atlantic Empire took control of Ireland and merged it with the crown in 1461.
1461 - 1598 - Ireland remained under the control of the Atlantic Empire until Queen Elizabeth I exiled the Catholics and placed John O'Neil in charge to put down the religious rebellion.
1598 - 1603 - John O'Neil.
1603 - 1801 - James I became the Emperor of the Atlantic Empire in 1603 and he apparently allowed Ireland to self-rule and that appears to have lasted until 1801 when Great Britain (Atlantic Empire) took control again.
1801 - 1999 - To Great Britain.
The different possibilities for your More line to have branched off the Royal lineage of Ireland starts with Richard II, who died in 1330 and ends with Richard III who died in 1483.
Wasn't that lovely!? The poem and the history. Please feel free to share your thoughts and research with me. Even though I am busy and my wrists / hands are slowly giving out, I am interested.
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